Do you guys know what rhymes with debate? Masturbate. HEY. I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE MATURE.

Anyway, I know that literally every other blogger in history has done this post. I’m altogether too lazy to check back to confirm this, so you’ll just have to take my word for it. Why do I think I have something extra to add to this already overwrought  debate? Well, first off, I GUARANTEE my post will contain more penis jokes than all those other ones. Besides, I’m 92% smarter and 104% more attractive than all the others who have previously tackled this. And 394% more humble. It’s a very complicated formula. I wouldn’t attempt it.

Anyhoo, back to the debate. Us Canucks don’t typically have 30 year mortgages, 25 year loans are much more common. Some people are ambitious and take 15 year mortgages, but a 20 year mortgage is the norm for people who are trying to more aggressively pay down their debt. Once we get to the end of the post though, you’ll see how the numbers work even for Canadian mortgages. That’s a bigger tease than the cover of Hustler magazine. (I buy it for the articles)

Let’s run some hypotheticals, bitches!

Purchase price: $300,000
Interest Rate: 4%
30 year mortgage payment: $1426
15 year mortgage payment: $2214
Total interest paid 15 year: $98,540
Total interest paid 30 year: $213,560

It’s official, the 15 year wins, right? Over those extra 15 years, you’d save an extra $115,020 in interest if you’d just stop being a slacker and pay off your place quicker. Of course, you won’t be able to afford as much house to begin with if you do take out a 15 year loan, but that’s okay. How many people do you know who live in place that’s way the hell too big anyway? Many of us could easily downsize to a smaller place.

But wait. Let’s assume that our imaginary home buyer can afford both the 30 year and 15 year mortgages. He’s raking in the cash, probably doing boob jobs for that Heidi chick from The Hills. It becomes a choice of preference, rather than necessity. Let’s also assume, just for this example, that if he takes the 15 year mortgage, our hypothetical buyer isn’t going to have much room left over to contribute to his future. Our hypothetical buyer is also a guy, because boys rule and girls drool, at least according to that 6 year old I just talked to.

But, that’s okay, because he’ll have a paid off house, right? That’s true, but that’s all he’ll have, since Mr. Hypothetical is putting all his cash towards his house. We won’t look at whether his house goes up in value or not, because our other hypothetical buyer will also see their house go up in value. We’ll pretend hypothetical buyer B is a girl, to save some grace with my dwindling female readership.

Buyer A pours all his cash into his house, so for 15 years he doesn’t invest an extra dime. But, from year 15 to year 30 he’s going to have all sorts of money to invest – $2214 per month to be exact. After 15 years of investing $2214 per month at an 8% return, hypothetical buyer A ends up with a nest egg of $779,087. He also ends up with a fully paid for house. Assuming he bought the place when he was 30, he’s not sitting bad as a 60 year old. Well done, hypothetical buyer A. Your grandkids will undoubtedly squander your inheritance.

Back to buyer B. She takes the 30 year mortgage, along with the $1426 monthly payment. Every month, she’s got an extra $788 compared to our other buyer. She thinks about going out and spending it on shoes, makeup, clothes and whatnot, but that would be silly. So she invests it in her brokerage account, and uses glimpses of cleavage to get guys to buy her those things. Like our other buyer, she gets an 8% return, but she manages to maintain her’s over a 30 year period.

After her extended mortgage is over, she has investments worth $1.157M. She’s got our first buyer beat, and beat handily. She will leave a much larger estate for her grandkids to squander. How does she end up with so much more than the first guy? Compound interest, stupid.

Compound interest works really well when you start early. By the time the first buyer even begins to invest, buyer B has over $277,000 already invested. It would appear that he gains ground as time goes on, but buyer B just has too much of a head start. Besides, after the mortgage is paid off, buyer B can afford to invest just as much as buyer A.

Americans can deduct their mortgage interest, meaning the extra interest buyer B pays over the life of her loan is mitigated. Canadians can’t deduct their mortgage interest, but interest rates are so low right now that maintaining a mortgage and investing at the same time is a form of leveraging. Mortgage debt is typically the best way for people to borrow money, since the bank has built in collateral, and because most mortgages in Canada are insured by the federal government.

With Canadians, this exercise gets a little more complicated, because we renew our mortgages, usually every 5 years, and there’s no guarantee that we’ll get attractive mortgage rates when we do. Generally too, the 5 year fixed mortgage rate up here is about equal to the rate of return you can get from a basket of low risk debt.

Once you even out the results over 25 or 30 years though, the return on equities will be higher than the return on fixed income. That’s just the nature of investing. Since equities are prone to knee-jerk reactions sometimes, they will have higher rates of return over time. That’s the nature between risk and reward. Long term investors are rewarded for taking additional risk. Short term investors are not, which is why they shouldn’t be taking said risk.

If you are one of those people who feels the need to pay off the mortgage quicker, might I suggest an alternative? Take out the 30 year loan, and make sure you get a mortgage that allows you to make prepayments of 20% per year without a penalty. Then you can make your small mortgage payments, save up some cash on the side, and then put big chunks down directly on principal. You’ll save interest, plus this strategy give you extra flexibility.

Also, a longer amortization is ideal because of inflation. As time goes on, a $1426 mortgage payment is worth less and less in real terms. Inflation slowly eats away at the value of the payment, meaning each payment gets just a little bit more affordable. Well, assuming your salary also moves up with inflation.

Now that I’ve straightened this up, you’ll have to excuse me. I’m off to stand outside the window of the house buyer B bought. Has anyone seen my binoculars?

 

 

As you can probably tell by the title, I’ve set myself up for some negative feedback from certain members of the mortgage community. It’s okay, I have thick skin and can handle it. Remember though, before you go filling up my comment section, that I used to be a mortgage broker. I wasn’t a particularly good one, but I did hold my license for 3 years.

Last week, the fine cougar and her son (that’s Boomer and Echo) wrote a simple little post titled 4 reasons not to use a mortgage broker. For those of you who can’t use a mouse well enough to click through, let me summarize Echo’s reasons:

1. They push 5 year fixed rates
2. He has a good relationship with his bank
3. Mortgage brokers are sleazy like used car salesmen
4. He figured out the best mortgage on his own, since he’s not dumb

Now, as a former mortgage broker, I agree with all 4 of these reasons. They do push 5 year fixed rates, not because the commission is more, but because that’s what most people want. And, as I said in my look at broker vs. banker months ago, dealing with your existing bank can be easier than dealing with a broker, since the bank already has so much of your information on file.

Brokers are quick to point out that only they know the way around things like payout penalties, portability and interest rate differentials. And they’re right, most people can’t accurately explain the terms. But, if you’re buying a house with a 15 year timeline, who cares about any of that stuff? Most people don’t have any extra cash kicking around to make extra payments anyway. If someone know’s they’ll never use their prepayment privileges, then I bet they don’t give a flying crap about them.

Most brokers will never admit this, but most mortgages are almost exactly the same. Most come with the same prepayment privileges and the same options to transfer the mortgage to a new property. There are subtle differences, but that’s it. And, since most brokers only send their business to a handful of lenders anyway (because of volume bonuses), it kind of renders the whole lots of choice argument useless.

The point of all this is that, essentially, for most of the population, getting a mortgage boils down to getting the best rate. And if that’s the case, homeowners who actually have a brain and an internet connection can do a lot of the legwork themselves, rendering a mortgage broker somewhat useless.

Yes, they have a role in educating the consumer. But, much to their chagrin, that role can easily be filled by the person in charge of mortgages down at your local bank. Knowledge of the terms involved isn’t reserved to brokers. I’ve had mortgages (yes, that’s a plural) arranged by my local credit union, and all that stuff was explained to me.

Brokers will always fill a niche in the market. Certain people won’t be able to qualify at their bank, for whatever reason. Certain specialized lenders focus on certain types of borrowers, and using the broker channel is a terrific way for the two to meet up. Other borrowers simply won’t get competitive offers from their bank, or their bank won’t be entirely interested in their mortgage business. Mortgage brokers thrive on these types of clients. I used to get a steady stream of clients that banks would send to me, because they had bruised credit. Unfortunately for all of us, it was 2008, so nobody could get any money from anybody.

Am I saying that you should avoid mortgage brokers like you should avoid that dirty chick who’s slept with every dude in town? Hardly. If you find a good one, they’re a great option to use for getting financing. They can make the whole financing process painless with their experience. They can make potential headaches go away by knowing them in advance. Their experience makes them invaluable.

But, I could type that very same paragraph about a good loans officer at the bank. The key to being good at mortgages is the key to being good at any other business- experience. So, naturally, just about every single pro-broker argument trotted out is some sort of variation of the theme. Brokers know the market. Brokers know rate, because they watch the bond market everyday. (Ha, what a lie that one is. Most brokers know squat about the bond market.) Brokers know the terms, because they deal with mortgages all the time. You should deal with a broker because they know more than the loans officer at your local bank branch.

And that’s why they get so damn excited when somebody questions their position of intellectual authority. Because that’s all they have. All that other stuff about why you should use a broker? It’s not so important. If you’re able to do the legwork yourself (like Echo did) then using the services of someone who knows all that stuff isn’t really necessary.

But, if people stop using brokers, then they’ll have more time to argue in comment sections, like mine. So I’d like to therefore throw my Financial Uproar thumbs up to using mortgage brokers. Maybe that’ll keep them busy enough to not type out the same old arguments in my comments.

 

Since at least half of my readers are intelligent and awesome, (don’t worry, you’re totally in that half) I’m going to take a break from dispensing the advice and turn to you guys for a little guidance. Or, what’s more likely to happen, I’ll come to a conclusion on my own after writing the post, and I won’t need your help anyway. It’s okay though, feel free to leave me your two cents in the comment section. As always, it’ll be ignored.

As Financial Samurai likes to remind us every 17 seconds, interest rates are super low right now. Because so many investors are fleeing the stock market for the safety of bonds, they’ve driven the price of these bonds up substantially. Since there’s so much demand, interest paid to the borrowers is extremely low. This is bad news for investors, but good news for borrowers.

Enter my situation

The skinny:

Amount owed: $150,000

Remaining amortization: 16 years

Current payment: $450 bi-weekly

Current interest rate: Prime minus 0.3% (currently 2.70%)

Term expiry: August 2013

You should note that the mortgage amount owing, payment and amortization are all approximate numbers. I could find out the exact amounts, but I’m lazy. Some people manage to run their finances without micromanaging them.

I was reading the wonderful Canadian Mortgage Trends website, and they informed me of a promotion ATB Financial was having. For the next little while, ATB is offering a five year fixed mortgage for 3.09%. This is only 40 basis points above my current rate. This is a very cheap fixed rate.

First of all, let’s look at the cost of switching lenders. Because I went with the variable rate mortgage back in 2008 when I bought my house, my mortgage rate crept down with rates in general. For a little while, I was paying a mortgage just a hair above 2%.

As you might recall from one of my posts about mortgages, payout penalties are either 3three months interest or the interest rate differential between my current mortgage and the same mortgage now. Since there’s no difference between what I have and what’s offered (because of the variable rate), I’d be stuck paying the three month interest penalty.

Three months interest: $983.06. So I’m looking at a penalty of about a thousand bucks.

Let’s assume I roll that penalty back into my mortgage, so this process doesn’t cost me anything out of pocket. My handy dandy mortgage calculator tells me that if I keep my payment the same, I’ll add about a half a year on to my amortization. The amortization goes to 16.45 years from 15.8 years.

There’s going to be an additional cost for interest, at least at first. Currently I’m on pace to pay $3925 in interest. If I switch to a 3.09% rate, I’ll have to shell out $4527 in interest. $600 a year is nothing to sneeze at, and I highly suspect I’ll be paying it for each of the next two years.

But what happens then? Expectations are that interest rates are going to stay low for an extended period of time. But just how long will that be? Let’s look at a couple of scenarios:

Scenarios

First of all, we have what most people think will happen. Rates will stay low, the Bank of Canada will sit on the current rate, since the economy could use some stimulation. If this happens, I’m better off staying with my current mortgage and only refinancing when my expiring term forces me to do so. I’ll avoid a penalty that way, and I’ll have my pick of lenders offering the same low rates as today.

Scenario two is that rates start to creep up a year from now. The economy has started to recover sooner than expected. For the sake of argument, let’s say the Bank of Canada has raised rates twice, pushing prime up to a still reasonable 3.5%. At this point, my variable rate has become 3.2%.

Traditionally, the spread between five year fixed and variable rates has been between 1-1.5%. So if variable is 3.2%, a five year fixed would be anywhere from 4.19%-4.79%. If the economy recovers, we’ll start to see more normal spreads between fixed and variable rates. If this situation occurs, I’ll be kicking myself for not locking in now.

What Does It All Mean?

As much as I crunch the numbers, this problem basically comes down to one question. Where will interest rates go in the next two years?

If they go up, even just a little, refinancing makes all sorts of sense at this current rate. If they stay the same, I’ve just paid over $2000 in an attempt to guess interest rate trends. While $2000 isn’t a huge amount of money, I’m still risking something on the guess.

The contrarian in me thinks rates can’t stay this low for long. I understand the market is a scary place right now, but we’re approaching bubble territory in fixed income. Just how long will investors accept a 2% return on a 5 year bond, considering inflation is close to 2%? I’d rather have my money sitting on the sidelines.

Remember when I said I’d figure out the situation myself? I’m still stumped. Readers, the floor is yours.

 

 

Did you know that you can hold your mortgage in your RRSP? Up until earlier this year, I wasn’t aware that you could. All the interest that gets paid every payment goes toward the RRSP, giving the borrower a guaranteed return that is a pretty secure investment. Before you can implement this strategy, a few things have to be noted:

Contribution Room: If you don’t have enough contribution room for the entire value of the house, you’re pretty much screwed with this strategy. This means that most young people simply won’t have the contribution room to implement this strategy. It’s much better suited to a middle aged individual.

Financial Institution: There are only a handful of financial institutions that will implement this plan for a customer. It will cost quite a bit to get started as well, with an appraisal and CMHC mortgage insurance being mandatory fees, as well as having to pay a self administered RRSP fee every year.

Mortgage Rates: With mortgage rates sitting at record lows, there may be better returns to be had in other investments. Another factor to consider is that your RRSP has to charge you a mortgage rate that is comparable to what you’d get in the open market. Sure, you’d naturally make that rate as high as you can get, but these days you wouldn’t be getting any more than 5-6%.

Lack of Diversification: This strategy is pretty much the definition of having all your eggs in one basket.

I’m making this strategy sound pretty bad. It’s not all bad though, here are some advantages:

Simplicity: For someone who is either skittish or lacks understanding about investing can benefit greatly from this strategy. Mortgage rates will always beat GICs, giving the holder a return similar to fixed income over time.

Rental Property: If you have the RRSP room and want to buy a rental property in middle age, this strategy can be very effective. Remember, as an investment, the interest you’d pay to your RRSP would be tax deductible. This would be a great way to supercharge RRSP returns, assuming you’re okay with the other downfalls of owning rental property.

Paying Yourself: Another advantage of this strategy is knowing that you’re paying yourself interest, instead of paying it to the “evil” banks. This is mostly a psychological advantage, but this could be very important to the RRSP holder.

Basically Guaranteed: Thanks to CMHC making it mandatory for mortgage insurance for this strategy, the mortgage holder (the RRSP) has their principal guaranteed. This guarantee can be priceless for the risk adverse investor.

Do any readers have experience with this? Care to weigh in?

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